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plus nobody could tell me what percentage the numbers was in a ecu fuel map table. o2įrom my little time with busa ecu editor the fuel maps took to long to adjust. Granted the Woolich is a lot more defined in the lower rpm range but you can get in the ball park and then fill in the gaps. You can put an all 0's map in the Bazzaz and set your desired AFR then ride it and see what the Bazzaz is calling for and tune it with the Woolich. Ĭould be for the same reason that I still have a Bazzaz with Auto tune on mine. I wonder why zuki guys still use power commanders.
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The suzuki guys have been doing this for years and no one that I know of is trying to sell their tune. I live in Thailand, and there was no way I was gonna chance sending my ECU on a return trip to the States, and there are no local tuners who have the tools to map a 14R ECU (a couple can map a PC-V, but I wouldn't trust them with my bike)- the Woolich set-up was perfect for me, and I was able to upload the flash myself.
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I just hate that it's taken this long to get the tools out to the general public so we can finally tune our own like the zuk guys have been doing all along. I think Woolich has the right idea! He's making the tools to do it with and couldn't care less what tune anyone runs or who they share it with.
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Tuners will have to ask their clients not to share their maps, which hopefully will be honored, but if some guy builds his own awesome map and just decides to release it without compensation, that will greatly impact the market.
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I can download a map and upload it to my bike in a few minutes, and the tuning harness and stock maps (which you need to get started) cost ~$450 (or less), and from there you're able to change and alter your ECU as you see fit.Īll due respect to Brock and Guhl, but others will build on what they've done and release their own versions at much lower prices (or free). I agree with you, but with the new 'map sharing' feature released by Woolich last weekend (which will allow anyone to upload a map they've created and share it with any other registered user for free), sooner or later all the best maps will be available for anyone with the tuning harness- granted, they won't be fine-tuned on a dyno, but they'll be close enough for bikes with similar mods. Just seriously bummed about the amount of $ in the price diff of course. I am OK with paying Brock and Don Guhl since I know they did the hard work. Once the 14R ECU was finally unlocked, this was bound to happen. I bought a flash from a tuner- he asked me not to share it and I respect that, but not everyone will look at their new map in the same way.
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At least he told me I wouldn't have to pay again if I wanted my rev limiter moved up to what he recommended in the first place.Īnyone's flash can be read and copied with the Woolich harness and software (I've got the set-up)- someone could have easily read another tuners numbers and might now be selling the tune as their own- this info isn't copyrighted as far as I know.
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If it's any consolation I believe Guhl will reflash it for you for free if you need upgrades down the road. It's only money and you made an investment in your machine. Shit happens man, you know if Brock's did it, it will be good and if there is an upgraded flash you will be able to get that. I tied up my bike with ECUleashed over the 2012 winter and after all was said and done, I forked over $300+ for Ivan to send mine out and have Guhl do it. If schnitz is flashing his own its probably not the same flash. Kinda bummed is all.Īll flashes are not created equal. I was fully aware of what I was buying and I also appreciate the research that went into making this possible. I can't help but feel taken a little at this point. $75 gets you what appears to be the same ECU re-flash. Just saw that Schnitz is doing ECU flashing now in another thread so I went to the Schnitz website and sure enough. With the shipping and insurance I spent over $400. Just got my ECU re-flash back from Brock's on Friday.